Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Pittsburgh Comet denied entry to Ravenstahl public event; enjoyed Lamb instead.


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This blogger was turned away yesterday evening from Mayor Luke Ravenstahl's campaign office public opening in the Strip District, but had no such difficulty enjoying Controller Michael Lamb's meet and greet with supporters at his own office opening in Greenfield.

City of Pittsburgh Governmental Affairs Manager Paul McKrell accosted and impressed upon me at the sign-in table that I should turn around and leave -- allegedly in part due to a suspicion by "some" that I am currently on mayoral candidate Councilman Bill Peduto's payroll. So, let me correct that invention right away. This blogger is not and has never received anything of value, or assurances of anything of value, from Bill Peduto -- nor have we ever had a professional relationship. In fact, to the best of my recollection Bill Peduto has never lifted a finger for me, unless you count as I do absolutely these 301 Random Things Peduto Has Done in which I have no special interests.

The Comet supposes that if one feels like one is paying for most of one's own support, then it only stands to reason everybody else's support must have been similarly purchased. So I do not take my refusal from last night's event even the slightest bit personally.

With that important preface out of the way, we gladly report to our beloved readers this blogger and North Sider's experiences during an exciting campaign night across this City of Champions:

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I enter the crowded Strip District office and am in the middle of signing my name at the welcome desk, when an arm comes across my shoulder and I hear, "No, no no no no no." McKrell pulls me aside and we agree to go outside to chat.

Cersei Lannister: HBO
He tells me that there are "many" inside, most notably City of Pittsburgh mayoral chief of staff Yarone Zober, who would be provoked into an ugly confrontation at my presence. In trying to determine the severity of the prohibition, I receive several "warnings" that things would likely get out of hand if I reentered -- specifically that "Yarone would pitch a fit."

A little background: Ravenstahl's 2009 election victory party was held at the Priory, a mere few blocks from my apartment. I attended the celebration and had a fantastic time with McKrell, city press secretary Joanna Doven, prominent Spring Garden mayoral fan Jeff Dzamko and others, including Ravenstahl himself just briefly. But Zober did seize that occasion to give me a thorough "piece of his mind." He critiqued my reporting with insistence that I oughtn't be spreading unfounded rumors that people are "stealing money" (although I have never made such accusations or insinuations) and volunteered some information new to me about personal relationships between himself and Councilman Peduto (who did not rank among the litany of challengers Ravenstahl was celebrating vanquishing that year), before settling into an extended speculative psychological critique of myself -- which is always appreciated. Yesterday I expected to receive a similar frank and open presentation of Zober's view if need be.

But since it was not my intention last night to disturb anyone's good time or cause any problems, I acquiesced to McKrell's suggestion to leave. But not without first asking, "Why?" In six years writing the Comet I have never gone in for hidden-camera surprises, scene-stealing demonstrations or anything that would discomfort event hosts -- indeed like anyone else, I find it harder to be a sharp critic of persons I meet and know well. I was looking forward to restoring some of those connections, as those Pittsburgh relationships themselves are even more important than city politics.

However, after claiming that everyone's "chief" concern was that I might be working for Peduto (I am not), McKrell also complained that my "tone has changed a lot over the past two years" as well as my position towards the mayor.

That also is easily explained. Two years ago, Comet readers may recall, I actually began a half-year's research consultancy out of the office of noted Ravenstahl ally Councilwoman Theresa Kail-Smith -- for whom I still feel a certain loyalty and affection. Although she never once suggested I quit or change the way that I write, I did "tone down the politics" for a bit so I could explore whether life inside City government was right for me, and do a better job while I was there. I learned a lot during that experience and gained a great deal of respect for many City workers and department heads -- but I ultimately returned to blogging as a confirmed outsider, and I returned largely to the same political positions I had held from 2007-2010: that of being a critic of this mayor. Only now I hope with much better education and understanding.

*-UPDATE: It is important to add to this story that McKrell, after joining this blogger outside, requested that the resulting conversation stay "just between us."  This blogger muttered his assent in the moment. My explanation for forgetting this ordinarily sacrosanct qualifier is that I grew resentful over how the situation was "handled." The Comet regrets this negligent breach in confidence and any temporarily misunderstood smear on McKrell's reputation as well as the stain on my own. I might further have avoided this by replying directly to my original Facebook event invitation, instead of confirming via yet a fourth party on Twitter.

Aside from noting the attendance of a couple of prominent Pittsburgh United organizers at Ravenstahl's event, that is about all I can report. But their presence struck me as strange, since so much of what Bill Peduto has fought for and been able to accomplish over the last several years has been at the behest of or with the cooperation of that coalition led by the SEIU and others -- and over the ferocious opposition of Luke Ravenstahl and Yarone Zober to boot. Laborers need to save their solidarity for other laborers, so I'm not sure that solidarity with politicians is ever really to be expected. But this was startling. I can speculate that Ravenstahl acquiesced to eventually pressure UPMC on payments-in-lieu-of-taxes only if he receives electoral support from certain segments of the SEIU. I also believe the argument that "Ravenstahl is an unstoppable juggernaut," together with "especially in a three-person race," must be carrying the day with them.

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Original snark by Eric Hagarty
Michael Lamb's event was another kettle of fish. I entered his Greenfield field office and was impressed by the number of fans and onlookers in attendance for the kickoff event (100+ on a snowy, blustery night) and was received warmly by campaign staff even after informing them that I am a blogger.

Most of the rhetoric I received in answer to my questions however was boilerplate -- they are focusing on reaching out to voters now, no they have not conducted any internal polling which I might see a sanitized preview of, yes they are confident Ravenstahl is in so much trouble they can succeed in the three person race anyway, yes there were Democratic committee members here but we cannot find them just now.

Their skill at deflecting my pointed, unanswerable questions while giving me something else to chew over was not nearly as well-honed as that of Mr. McKrell from the city, of Ravenstahl campaign staffer Dietrich Kelley, or of friend-to-the-Comet and Councilman Burgess staffer Shawn Carter. Although I don't mean to sound ageist (WARNING: ageism ahead) I did not notice anyone among the campaign staff introduced by Mr. Lamb who would qualify as a "veteran" or a highly accomplished professional such as either Guy Costa or Sonya Toler of Peduto's staff.

Nonetheless, Controller Lamb called his team "the best campaign staff ever, in the history of the city." He critiqued Mayor Ravenstahl for having missed opportunities and for making people forget what good government even looks like. Later on, Lamb assured the Comet that from what he hears on the street, the mayor "is in a lot of trouble" and professed that if I don't believe the Mayor can be unseated in a three-person race, that I "must be talking to the wrong people."

97 comments:

  1. Oh, Paul McKrell! What another piece of work in the Ravenstahl administration he is!

    He is the one who insinuated himself into an ACCBO meeting in October 2011 to assert the mayor's forced changes to the ACCBO budget, heavy-handedly and unilaterally overriding the recommended allocations of the ACCBO board out of nothing but snide political retribution.

    (ACCBO is a board composed of reps from each Council office, from the Mayor's office, from City Planning, from the URA, and from numerous nonprofits and banks such as Brashear Association and PNC, who voluntarily entertain submissions and presentations and deliberate on the allocation of something well under $1 million equitably among all the community development organizations in the City.)

    As a member - and possibly the only one who had nothing to lose by bucking the mayor's attempt to chop off funding to two North Side organizations for no good reason - I defended the district I represented, and spoke sharply and incisively against such a politically motivated, overbearing, potentially harmful, discourteous intrusion.

    When I took a breath, McKrell - in this public meeting - said mockingly, "Are you on drugs? If you're not, you should be."

    And he proceeded to make faces and gestures and mouthings to continue mocking me.

    If ever there were a more clear indication of the puerile nature of this administration than this saga, I don't know what it could be.

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  2. His supercilious, smirking attitude and the fact that he was getting paid twice what I was - apparently just to mock people in public and declare that the "Mayor's priorities" were reflected in the deletions he had made - and his subsequent idiotic conversation with the board that indicated he had no idea what the procedures were for which he was usurping authority, well, it's difficult to describe my subsequent opinion of him and those he represents.

    He then said the mayor felt that the CDCs should do new procedures to get their money. We formed a committee to draft the wording to them, and set a date to meet for just that purpose.

    Councilman Burgess sent (another Mayoral spy?) Shawn Carter to interlope in that drafting session - we had each set aside about an hour or two in our schedules and Shawn took up over an hour asking us detailed questions about ACCBO and procedures while he entered into his phone all that we said off the cuff to be helpful and - at least the rest of the group - welcoming.

    Of course after an hour I made a motion that we ask him to leave so we could actually draft the letter. No one of the four others there had the nerve to even second the motion. Later, in Council, on the public record, Councilman Burgess assailed my integrity as having tried to evict his staffer from a public meeting.

    Don't get me started on Paul McKrell.

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  3. Looking forward to your follow up Bram.

    Off topic, but the outpouring of love for Bruce Dixon in the commments on the PG's story about his death are touching. So is the accompanying video of a Day in the Life of Dr. Dixon. He seems like he was a great guy. Maybe Fitz needs to pumps the brakes a bit, before the bull breaks any more china.

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  4. Looking forward to your analysis of Peduto's office opening tomorrow night. If you have time, maybe you can also drop by Sam Hens-Greco's fundraiser at the Pittsburgh Center for the Arts, also tomorrow night, and let us know what you think.

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  5. First commenter should have identified herself as Audrey Glickman. What she failed to tell you, Comet reader, is that she was fired by her boss, the City Council President, shortly after her performance at that meeting. Anyone who interacts with her knows that to say that "Audrey should be on medication" is not an insult, but the result of an accurate psychological diagnosis.

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  6. I know folks used to complain about Murphy and Tom Cox having short tempers and being difficult, but has there ever been a bitchier mayoral administration than the gang of Mean Girls currently leading America's Most Liveable City? I chalk up most of the thin skin to sheer callowness and immaturity. Adults know how to hide their feelings and go along to get along; adolescents pout and whine.

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  7. Anon 5:14 - Thanks for the invite, I'll try to make it.

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  8. @February 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    It seems particularly cowardly to reveal (maybe) the identity of a fellow commenter while under cover of the mantle of protective secrecy yourself.

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  9. Anonymous at 5:20 p.m. must have been at that ACCBO meeting. I was fired by Councilwoman Harris, in mid-December 2011 (not in October) for a difference of opinion over revising a memo which contained my opinion.

    The Councilwoman supported my opinion in that ACCBO meeting, against the unwarranted slashing of funding to North Side organizations.

    I suspect that Anonymous 5:20 is not actually a psychologist, but perhaps feels a kinship to those s/he spends time among.

    Mr. Ravenstahl should have immediately fired any employee who would publicly insult and mock a member of an organization before which he was a guest representing the mayor - or who would insult anyone in any public meeting. I know I would.

    McKrell probably got a raise for his trouble.

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  10. @Whoever who revealed the identity of fellow commenter on February 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Shame. Cowardly bullies are just so small. No matter how Big they are.

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  11. I don't believe it's ever appropriate to disparage somebody for being on, being off or requiring meds. Far better to just call someone irritating or off-base if that's how you feel.

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  12. >>"Far better to just call someone irritating or off-base if that's how you feel," Bram says.

    Or to simply describe what transpired, and allow others to draw their own conclusions.

    Describing what transpired before witnesses is quite different from making allusions and possibly libelous statements and stating ungrounded speculation as fact about a private citizen in a public medium, which might require one to unsheath that "anonymous" tag.

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  13. flybylight is correct. As is Bram Reichbaum.
    Some people do need medication to function in society - some for physical needs, some for social or psychological needs. To throw out statements like "she should have been on meds" is disparaging to people with disabilities as well as potentially libelous.

    As an advocate for people with disabilities, I believe Anonymous 5:20 should rethink how he/she talks about other peoples' abilities, quirks, and behavior.

    I suggest using "I" messages instead. When you disagree with someone, state "when you do this, I see this, and therefore I feel like this."

    To call someone essentially crazy is, imo, plain and simple, dissing and name calling that is often used to threaten an individual, to "put them in their place," and treat them like second-or-third-class citizens. It has been done before and continues to be done to People with all forms of disability, Blacks, Muslims, Native Americans, Asians, LGBTQ people, etc. Including women as seen here.

    Please think before you speak or write. What would you feel like if these barbs were thrown at you? How else could you express your frustration?

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  14. I remember Audrey Glickman from when I worked for the Council on American Islamic Relations - Darlene Harris upstandingly intervened in a police brutality case for a Muslim client of ours who was her constituent. Audrey basically introduced me to City Hall for the first time. I send my continued gratitude and respect for how thoughtful, kind and diligent she was during our mutual work with our client.

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  15. Thank you to Joanne and Helen, for defense, bolstering, and compliment. I was so glad to meet Helen for clout to help that constituent.

    I will always stand against any demeaning, any discrimination, any belittling. And while working to stop it short, will remind everyone of what my mother says - "consider the source."

    Which in this case is Mayor Ravenstahl's office.

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  16. Doesn't get talked about a lot, but Ravenstahl, Zober, McKrell, Mazefsky, Regan... the mayoralty's brain trust as it were is demographically homogeneous. It seems at times.

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  17. The interesting thing about Yarone, to me, is his change in personality since he succeeded to a position of power. When his first wife wanted a divorce and he left the house, he moved in with Ferlo. A certain Judicial candidate at that time tried to spread rumors that Yarone was gay and that's why his marriage was falling apart and he had moved in with Ferlo. Yarone was so distraught by the nature of these comments because, he stated, they were untrue- he even went so far as to swear off the need to for policits to tear people down. What a snake whose has done a 180 on his previous position and sadly influenced Paul as well.

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    1. Big words from someone not even willing to attach their name to their comments.

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  18. "A certain judicial candidate"... that whole elaborate smear always seemed ridiculous to me. I considered it an ancient dead rumor already by 2009, but I guess I didn't live it. If in fact the anonymous commentator at 11:04 is on to anything at all.

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  19. Well, that could explain why Yarone randomly stopped me on the street several years back, launched into what seemed a totally random conversation about how he and the mayor were really close, but like brothers or buddies, not like a gay thing, walking with me and insistently staying on that topic for a block or so. (His language was a lot more colorful than "a gay thing," but it's been years, now, and I'd hate to misquote.)

    This was before the (somewhat odious) "no gay" trend got started, but it was like a heaping dose of "no gay" showering on my otherwise quiet day.

    I've been wondering all these years what brought that on, not being privy to the nasty underbottom of Pittsburgh's rumors. (Given that I'd done things with and for the Stein club, I'd be a) the last person to spread gay rumors as a bad thing and b) the last person to be told those rumors.) Yarone had been pretty decent to me when I'd encountered him before that, and I really have not dealt with him since, so that encounter stuck with me.

    You know that old saw, "with friends like that, who needs enemies?"? Well, if you go out of your way to vigorously bring up and deny rumors involving yourself to people who are minding their own business...maybe your enemies are not your main problem. More generally (as a comment on the story above): Regardless of provocation, it is simply not OK use government (or a public campaign) to play "I'm in with the in crowd" games, or punish your perceived enemies.

    I don't love the flip side of this same coin. I'm disconcerted to be smooched at (during flu season, no less) by candidates who, six months ago, would never have hugged me. Can we all please invite each other to talk about issues, instead of acting like 5 year olds who need better boundaries (and the occasional time out)?

    For the record,

    1. this is Joy Sabl (no need to unmask me);
    2. Audrey was one of the four people (staff or Council Members) who I could most consistently count on to deal with practical issues;
    3. the row officers and their staffs have never been anything but competent and friendly;
    4. I don't care who ANYONE is having sex with, nor in what combinations, so long as it's consensual;
    5. my meds are zyrtec in allergy season, and melatonin at bedtime.

    Have a deep burning need to make comments on my attitude, dorky little bicycle, bumper stickers, sartorial flair (lack of), shape, age? Have at it.

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  20. Yarone stole Peduto's girlfriend. I was there that night at Cappy's. Crushed Bill's soul. So, nice try with the Ferlo stuff. You "progressives" are such vile homophobic slime.

    Also, is this the same Helen Gerhardt who was fired from Pitt for being a horrible teacher? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=940320

    Bram, are all your readers unemployed?

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  21. You guys are hilarious...this is better than an episode of dr. Phil dissecting a Jerry springer show!!!

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  22. Not to drag everyone abruptly back on topic just as true colors are shining through, but it occurs to me I omitted that I received a Facebook invite to the Ravenstahl event as well as a personal invite from a campaign staffer. So being turned away by City officials was quite unexpected.

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  23. Nope, I wasn't fired for being a horrible teacher, as three years of my MFA teaching evaluations by both students and my faculty supervisors will show you (you're invited to check 'em out at the Pitt English department.) But there were semesters where I earned some of those terrible comments, along with some kudos.

    And I'm fully employed, Anon 12:16 am.

    I'm in agreement that maybe we are all providing some Jerry Springer-type entertainment here - just such a bottomless well of muck to throw at each other, so many justified grievances, so many rumors to unearth from their graves even if only in the name of exorcism.

    Our Chief of Police was just asked to resign by our Mayor after years of exploiting the public trust, after years of negligence and conflicts of interest that have had literally deadly results for our communities. That doesn't happen by the will or efforts of just those two men, but by the tolerance, negligence and/or self-willed blindness of a much larger community. It happens by collective relaxations of the checks and balances (and self-scrutinies) that make democratic self-governance possible.

    The fact that so many people feel the need for anonymity to discuss issues of such crucial public import in Pittsburgh indicates that some serious misuse of power has become standard. The fact that Bram, as writer of some of the sharpest critiques of the current Administration, was asked to leave a public event because a Mayoral staff member might have "a fit" has wider public impact than any personal smear or tiff.

    Here's one reason why I'm going to vote for Bill Peduto, myself. I don't feel scared to hit the Publish button under my own name, no matter what criticism I might express of his performance as an elected official. And I've observed him take some heat to take some stands for the good of his city.






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  24. It would seem I owe an apology for publishing comments under the name of my old lighting design business, which I never considered to be equivalent to being anonymous.

    I don't care who knows it is Audrey Glickman. However, while working for the Councilwoman, I was not permitted to have any of my own opinions.

    I suspect that is why so many "anonymouses" have published above - when working for an elected official one must abdicate one's own opinions. One may express nothing that the elected official would not say.

    Not even under an old business name.

    Also don't care that someone knows I was fired - ultimately for "insubordinately" refusing to revise a memo solely between me and the Councilwoman. I refused to change my opinion as expressed to her, and she fired me. Without unemployment compensation, after four years of 24-hour-a-day loyalty above and beyond for $28,000 a year.

    As opposed to Chief Harper, who apparently - according to his lawyer as quoted in the Post-Gazette - "retired," rather than "resigned," as the Mayor said.


    As far as the Press being excluded from an event - to which it turns out the Press had been invited, especially - that is absolutely against the best interests of our government. Without the Fourth Estate we have no decent government, no control of power.

    Mr. Ravenstahl is a very powerful man, and he knows how to share that power, to give it out to his minions and to take it back when anyone gets too much of it. Don't make any mistakes about the strength of what we have permitted to happen.

    Excluding and controlling the Press has always been a clear indication of corruption by power.

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  25. FWIW, Pitt hasn't fired me either.

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  26. I worked with Audrey, she didn't deserve to be fired by Harris. No one was more dedicated to her job than Audrey.

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  27. Paul McKrell & Yarone Zober...two of the most paranoid people ever in city government.

    This is the same McKrell who was in tears when he learned that he wasn't allowed to run for the Dan Walko state rep seat. He had his eyes on that the entire time thinking he would be the chosen one only to be pushed aside for...ADAM RAVENSTAHL.

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  28. I'll gladly go to bat for Audrey too. I've had nothing but good interactions with her at the polls and numerous political events. The cowardly commenter crossed the line with the "meds" crack--especially since Audrey is not a public figure--and I think that Bram should have removed it as soon as it was posted.

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  29. Even a casual reader of this website would conclude that there is a narrative that is critical of the mayor for all manor of things. Conversely, Peduto and Lamb are rarely, if ever, criticized. The mayor was within his right to exclude you. Remember, you are a blogger. You are not a journalist. There is no obligation that you be granted access to the mayor.

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  30. Chris Zurawsky - While your concern is clearly valid and the comment's appearance made me nervous as well, I e-mailed Audrey to double check, and she confirmed she is comfortable being part of one case study in Ravenstahl brain trust behavior.

    Joy Sabl - I feel like I've waited years to receive a comment like that. Thank you for making my blog better.

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  31. Gee, thank you for the support, fellow commenters.

    I don't mind that Bram did not take the comment down, and I don't mind cowardly comments against me - as they only show the true colors of the commenter.

    The original comment - of similar ilk - was made in a public meeting on the public record, as well. People may think what they will, based upon the facts, the reporting of the facts, and their perception of the facts.

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  32. Anon 10:08 - It all depends on your communications strategy and what it says about you. I certainly am not suing anyone to enforce a right to be there. But for the record, "casual readers" would also have assumed during the spring, summer and fall of 2010 (far prior to my engagement with Kail-Smith) that I was a Ravenstahl partisan when I supported Ravenstahl's parking lease on an almost daily basis, far more effectively than Ravenstahl himself ever did.

    Has there ever been a blog, or a blogger, supportive of Mayor Ravenstahl? Even one? Contrary to popular belief, we weren't all grown on the same genetic engineering ranch. I find it remarkable that distaste for our mayor is universal in the online community. Why do you suppose that is? I don't feel like I'm in a good position to judge.

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  33. Has there ever been a blog, or a blogger, supportive of Mayor Ravenstahl?

    Matt H maybe, toward the end of his blogging.

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  34. Towards the beginning. In the middle he flipped, and towards the end he was as critical of the Mayor as the rest.

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  35. That's right. My memory was off.

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  36. First of all, I'm not entirely sure how I am relevant to the posting about Bram being escorted out of an event or of any matter brought up in comments #1 and #2.

    Second, since ACCBO was brought up, let's discuss ACCBO.

    ACCBO stands for "Advisory Committee on Community-Based Organizations."

    An "advisory" committee. Which means they give "advice" to a decision-maker, or decision-makers, who then subsequently make final decisions which may or may not be consistent with said recommendations.

    Decision makers, at all levels, routinely substitute their own judgment for "recommendations."

    Obviously, no one who spends time crafting or drafting recommendations only to see them adjusted by said decision-makers is going to be happy about it.

    But that is how it happens, everywhere.






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  37. In the case of ACCBO, the group was formed specifically to keep the politics out of the decisions as to distributing the money.

    And it is unprecedented for the Mayor to take those recommendations and trash them, let alone trashing them and then trying to pass them through Council without telling the ACCBO board. Without involving anyone except those in the Mayor's office.

    ACCBO consists of a group of diligent individuals representing a variety of organizations: The Brashear Association, PNC, Dollar Bank, Mellon Bank, Fifth/Third Bank, the URA, Riverside Center for Innovation, PPND, City Planning Department, the Mayor's office, each of the nine Council offices, and others - this is off the top of my memory.

    The story on WESA at the time provided a report.

    The story mentions that Shawn Carter's boss, Councilman Burgess, was the lone vote in favor of the Mayor's unilateral and highly political actions.

    And I didn't even mention the disparaging things that were said by members of the Ravenstahl administration against others who were not present at the time.

    The ugliness is not in the least mitigated by saying that the "A" in ACCBO stands for "Advisory."

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  38. Shawn Carter - Duly noted it's only an "advisory committee" to the Mayor, albeit one whose recommendations had not until that time been altered by a Mayor. But that's totally his privilege. The question is, did Ravenstahl substitute his policy judgment for its recommendations -- or did he substitute what Audrey calls "snide political retribution," I assume at Council President Harris and her North Side constituents for her staunch opposition to the parking lease?

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  39. Here's a good what if: What if Luke drops out of the race because of the FBI investigation? Probably helps Lamb. What if he drops out after the primary? Party would have to pick a new candidate.

    Just saying.

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  40. What if the Mayor goes? So goes Rev Ricky and by default Carter?
    Be still my heart!

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  41. a few points. You people are disgusting with your slanderous comments. Remember that everyone you are calling names and slandering, regardless of what side they are on, has wife/husband, kids, parents, siblings that care about them and that they care about. You call yourselves "progressives" but act like animals. And finally do you homework. Read about how Peduto was behind a slander campaign years ago against Michael Coyne to paint him as "gay" to turn voters against him. Guess who quit in disgust at that tactic? Fitz. As they say, politics make strange bedfellows.

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  42. Anon 7:46 and others, I sincerely would like to know what you think qualifies as "slanderous" or even rumor within these comments. One of the anonymites referenced an old and discredited slander about Zober we all remember from the time and which unfortunately existed, which we all leaped at the time as well as now to agree was ridiculous and incredible (this means false), but noted its past presence in seeking to explain why he became so bitter and politically vengeful. It was actually a sympathetic comment -- it partially rationalizes the "personality change" to "Dread Lord" so very many have noted.

    You made a criminal and a moral accusation against me and my friends. Please tell me exactly what you believe is slanderous. Because I think you're attempting to salvage your candidate's reputation by attacking the messenger's credibility.

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  43. Get over it. There was no "criminal" accusation. On the other hand, every time you call someone "corrupt" or use similar words - that is a criminal accusation. Be careful using that my friend, you might just regret it. Be careful using that word for a group of people as well - that is likewise slanderous. For example, "the x,yz group" is corrupt can be slanderous if everyone knows who the people are you refer to. On the other hand, there were lots of slanderous comments here, from the things people said about flybylight and Zober. All of it. It is just taken the turn of pure garbage. Good day sir.

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  44. "All of it" = "None of it". Good day to you as well, Foreboding Mystery Operative. Maybe one day we'll meet under less antagonistic circumstances, and be able to celebrate what Pittsburgh has become thanks to the dynamic interplay of all our efforts.

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  45. This last Anon has a point: "regardless of what side they are on, has wife/husband, kids, parents, siblings that care about them and that they care about."

    @Joy, I don't really get why you needed to tell that story about Yarone's conversation with you - and from years ago, not a relevant example of bullying or misuse of power, but a story of fear that might well be justified by how his personal and political networks might respond to such rumors.

    How is telling that story in line your own request that we stick to talking about the issues?




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  46. Anon,

    I'm a moderate who decided that the middle was going away and that this was nearly completely the fault of the current pack of "conservatives." So I don't think it is fair if you blame progressives if I say that I find you tedious.

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  47. Well, Bram, I hit Publish before reading the last few interchanges, and your own explanation for why Joy's story might be read as generosity toward Yarone, as an attempt to understand his turnaround.

    I don't know, man. I didn't sense much generosity toward someone we've seen act as a bully for so long.

    We all know that "mud" of whatever flavor doesn't have to be in the content itself - I'm bisexual so I most definitely think homophobia is rotten, as I'm most sure that Joy also does based on her comment - the muddiness lies in how we guess whatever we sling would currently be taken by the subject of the story themselves - or by those he/she wouldn't wish to read that story.

    I'm for what I do believe Joy is also really for - getting back to the issues. All this other stuff is indeed getting pretty tedious.



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  48. I'm all for that. But forums for discussion are important and overbearing enforcement from above can be oppressive. I've deleted a large quantity of ugly comments in my day and I'm completely unaroused by what is transpiring here. If it's not your thing, scan and scroll.

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  49. No way was I asking for any intervention on your part, Bram, certainly not "enforcement" or deletion of comments.

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  50. Not only was the Peduto/Coyne thing "years ago", it was SEVENTEEN years ago. They say elephants have long memories, but some grudgeful, allegedly progressive, donkeys can give them a run for their money.

    The Fall - Why are People so Grudgeful?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfi4sNTTAjY

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  51. @Anon February 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    I missed your comment in the thread before, scrolling through too quickly. You write to Bram: "Remember, you are a blogger. You are not a journalist. There is no obligation that you be granted access to the mayor."

    The longterm work and research that inform the Comet have earned acknowledgement of this blog as one of this city's most valuable participants in crucial public analysis and debate regarding Pittsburgh's politics and policy. As the CBS editors stated about the Comet when they awarded Bram the "Most Valuable Pittsburgh Blogger" Award in 2011:

    It covers local affairs in a way no local MSM outlet dares: in depth, in detail, and with no regard for the feathers its facts may ruffle.

    For me it is undeniable that the Comet and other blogs act as part of the Fourth Estate, that Bram and other bloggers are acting as crucial checks and balances on under-cover misuse of power by elected officials. If Bram was excluded from a public event to which he had been invited because he has effectively aimed spotlights on what Zober and the Mayor and his Network are motivated to keep in the dark, because he "ruffled their feathers" well, then, he's obviously effectively exercising the freedom of speech and thought that elected officials are so inconveniently required by our Constitution to protect and honor in our press.

    As a citizen, I expect not only more maturity, but basic respect for freedom of the press from the Mayor's staff. Bram is a writer and a critic of the current Administration. He's performing a public service by taking the risks he has and by inviting free and open debate at this forum. As an elected official, it comes with the job to withstand rhetorical slings and arrows. And the close attention of gadflies that may indeed sting quite painfully.

    Bram, other bloggers, and yes, his commenters are crucial partners and complements to mainstream media journalists our in joint efforts to keep this city a half-way functional democracy.

    And here's a little bit of law to complement my opinions about bloggers and journalists:

    https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/journalists/access



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  52. Some things I learned in Mr. Hirsch’s Social Studies class years ago.

    One can tell the facts to the best of one’s recollection and folks may draw their own conclusions.

    If a Reporter tells facts, there may be more of a burden to be complete than if a general citizen is telling facts. The better a Reporter gets at telling facts, the more complete information we have upon which to operate our civilization. Generally, history and news are reported from the perspective of the Reporter. Some Reporters will come to be known as thorough and unbiased, others will come to be recognized for other qualities.

    It is not Reporting to call people names, to speculate about what might have happened with no basis, to report hearsay as if one were present, to state (if they are not experts) that someone needs medications (funny, just the other day my doctor complimented me on not needing any), to bear false witness, to say things made up for personal or political gain.

    I personally think it is not Reporting to twist the truth – “Aliens spotted over Piscataway!” – but others may disagree.

    Commenters are not Reporters, I don’t think. I do think, though, that bloggers are Reporters. In these days of scant investigative reporting we have to take our Fourth Estate where we can get it, and bloggers are laying it at our feet in a new and interesting way. Some Commenters may come to be known as reliable sources of fact, just as some newspaper opinion writers have come to be known.

    It is better to have more than one Reporter whom we trust, as that keeps each of them honest. Otherwise, power and influence may corrupt them, too.

    Reporters are our mirrors. Without them and their Reporting, our civilization is degraded. We concentrate on the wrong things and let others fester. We forget the reason we have a civilization. Power becomes absolute power. No matter what form of government we have, we need to maintain our mirrors – art is another, communication (besides Reporting) is another.

    Thank you, Mr. Hirsch, wherever you are.

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  53. Hey, Audrey - I think we must have been typing away at the same time with our posts only a minute apart.

    I changed my email address since the last time we wrote - I'd be very glad to hear from you at my new one:

    helengerhardt1@gmail.com

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  54. Mr. Hirsch!! Life-changing class. Great teacher for a subject like Civics. Didn't remotely use a syllabus. Not sure how he'd fare in a class like Math or in this age of tests and whatnot.

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  55. Can't say I'm surprised by turn of events. Surprised Mike Lamb didn't catch situation earlier. Thinking Mike knew...years ago? Complicit in obstructionist politics...

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  56. flybylight - And there's exactly where it gets sticky with me. As a blogger, I'm okay being a reporter. Always been fine with that. As a commenter, when I'm just commenting out of the blue, sure, that as well. But as the custodian of a comments den -- a moderator, and a participant -- it gets a little tricky for me. One day I'd like a community-run and community-moderated forum about my blog on the order of many web comic illustrators such as xkcd, Questionable Content and Order of the Stick.

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  57. McKrell was dating someone in the controllers office!!! Some blond bimbo.

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  58. Bram - You are creating the new media. Revolutionaries printing broadsides? making speeches in the public forum? Poor Richard's Almanac? Follow the history - where does it lead you?

    It may need a new bit of programming to link the comments with the news but not have the comments (discussion) appear on the same page. You'd have to define how you want it.

    The concept of community-run and community-moderated is very much like the public square.

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  59. It was BILL Coyne in 1996, not Michael, and the issue was his record, not anything to do with being or not being gay, which btw, he's not.

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  60. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

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  61. I drove by Lamb's office. It's by the deli I keep meaning to try but that I'm never near when I'm hungry. Long way from Whole Foods.

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  62. Sorry to be so late to the party -- trying to catch up on comments now so:

    Oh the irony and hypocrisy of an anonymous commenter 'outing' someone else! Also, no one *has* to identify themselves in a comments section (unless the blog demands it), but Audrey certainly did so more than 'Anonymous February 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM' as he/she obviously recognized Audrey's handle 'flybylight' as would many who know her including myself.

    And, speaking of knowing her, I will join in with the chorus of others who have interacted with her over the years to state that I don't recognize the description of her by 'Anonymous February 20, 2013 at 5:20 PM' as I have always enjoyed and valued my interactions with Audrey. I do. however, recognize that libeling someone who speaks truth to power as being mentally unstable is a well known tactic to attempt to silence them. It also has a history in particular in being used against women -- google 'hysteria' sometime.

    Anyway, as far as the actual subject of this post goes, Bram, you're nobody in this town unless Lil Luke or his minions abuse you or reward you. At least you know you're on the righteous side of their attention. Good on you! :-)

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  63. Speaking of that new deli in Greenfield, now that Luke is damaged goods, I imagine that the O'Connor family embrace--always a major endorsement in this town--will be going to Mike Lamb. Greenfield blood and loyalty run deeper than the Fourth River, especially when the option for political gain are narrowing.

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  64. MG Guy - O'Connor hasn't revealed any desire to muddy himself with trifling nonsense. The way this one little election is shaping up, he might want to stand back and not get splashed.

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  65. Let us know when Corey actually takes a firm position on something substantive (proclaiming Joseph Schmoe Day in the city doesn't count.)

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  66. Let me know when O'Connor's final decision looks and sounds anything less than defensible. Haven't seen it.

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  67. @MG - Isn't Lamb from Beechview? What's his connection to Greenfield?

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  68. I think "the south" is trying to claim Greenfield as "south". And I might guess many Greenfielders might be fully inclined to agree with them. That would be aside, however, from the fact that many Greenfielders probably prefer our Mayor, or else are happily aligned with neighboring Squirrel Hill in favoring Bill. It's a Five Points kind of neighborhood and a good place to make a statement or a bluff. Lamb's office was south on Greenfield Ave., almost on the way to Hazelwood.

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  69. I live in Greenfield and am 110% with Peduto. Yes, that's correct, Bram - Lamb's campaign office is right on Greenfield Avenue, just down the street from Szmidts Deli.

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  70. Goliath takes David outside the tent where no one else can hear and says, "Okay buddy, this here little 'talk' is gonna stay just between us, right? Cause you is a gentleman, right? You don't have any idea what lowdown I'm about to lay on you, but I can trust your Word of Honor, right? Okay, good, now lookie here at these brass knuckles I just found here in my pocket to talk with."

    Translated into in grammatical suit-speak of course.

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  71. Lamb has family in Greenfield (a brother, if memory serves) and his long-time right-hand man, Thomas "Tucker" Sciulli lives there and has a big extended family there. Sciulli ran for city council around 2002, losing to Doug Shields. Thus Lamb's Greenfield office. Of course, Peduto's big backer, Rich Fitz, has family and roots in Greenfield too. And it's Bob O'Connor's ancestral home. So obviously, a battleground neighborhood for Bill and Mike, but not so much for Luke, I'd wager.

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  72. "O'Connor's final decision" on what, Bram. I'm not getting your comment.

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  73. Anon 9:57 - Just on anything. The advantage of a safer strategy is that it's safe.

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  74. I see Corey running for governor one day and some enterprising reporter from across the state will ask, "Where the heck does O'Connor stand on the issues?" To which Pittsburghers will answer, "He comes from a good family, we loved his dad, and the kid can't take a bad picture!"

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  75. Yes, Thomas "Tucker" Sciulli does live in Greenfield, but I don't think he's worth too many votes. Fitz does have ties to Greenfield, as well, and his wife is from the neighborhood. It will be interesting to see who Corey O'Connor comes out publicly for, but really, what significance will it really have on who wins or loses? Lamb may have extended family in Greenfield, I am not certain. I do know that he doesn't have a political powerhouse in the 15th ward. His choice of Greenfield is still a surprise to me.

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  76. I meant to reveal every word of my McKrell story, and am not sworn to secrecy as it occurred at a public meeting. Further, as one who was under scrutiny for four years representing an elected official - under threat of who-knows-what I could not utter a single word that would get back to the Councilwoman negatively - I have to say that anyone who works directly for an elected official had better toe the line; anything s/he utters is deemed to have been uttered by the elected official.

    The side comment you report in orange is almost more salient than the original banning after inviting.

    And I am a Greenfielder (raised here, came back in '93) who is solidly for Peduto, having worked with him closely, allied-ly and opposing-ly at times.

    That said, my committeeman (apparently for life) is constantly telling me that his wife's cousin is Rich Fitzgerald or Rich's wife (I don't really listen as I am not impressed), and that folks become committeemen so they can get road signs put up for constituents.

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  77. His choice of Greenfield is still a surprise to me.

    I have no idea about strategery, but you can defend those headquarters on their own grounds. It's a nice building, highly visible to lots of people, and convenient to both the East End and the Southside.

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  78. Eight minutes from Downtown or Oakland, by bus or car, 18 minutes by bike, as we like to say.

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  79. Tell Tucker to get back to work and quit wasting time in from of 414 Grant.

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  80. Unless he's second trick, it's well after working hours.

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  81. Greenfield=Irish....in a nutshell

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  82. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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  83. My committee man has also told me - many times - that the 15th Ward only endorses Irish and Italians for office. When I was hearing that for the umpteenth time and standing there with a Peduto sign against his O'Connor pins, he said Irish trumps Italian in that case.

    He also mentioned that once a Black candidate had filed suit against them for discrimination but later withdrew the case. He gave me no further details.

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  84. I'm Irish and Italian, but in the 14th Ward. It isn't exactly a rare combination.

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  85. Lets take a look at councilman peduto. He ran in what 2005, came in second on a lark. Bobby dies, and he runs again. This time he gets beat for the endorsement, but he is the senior member on council running against a wet behind the ears kid.He runs for but loses the endorsement. Next He hires a big shot pollster, sees numbers he doesn't like and runs for the Hills not to be seen on Walnut street for months.
    Thankfully he recovers, goes on finally gets his degree late in life then throws in a masters to buff up his résumé. Another mayoral election goes by with Bill on the sidelines. A couple younger, more vital, better degreed upstarts stole his thunder. Dok and Kevin. So BP decides to run this time but once burned he spurns the Democratic endorsement. Finally having a résumé that would provide him work in the event of a defeat, he gives up his much sought after council seat. The question is does he have the moxy to stay in the race if the incumbent sweeps the endorsement and the polling data again goes south on him. Hmmm that's a good question. Should you waste a primary vote on a quitter.

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  86. That's absurd for a couple of reasons. First, I don't think anybody remembers Kevin. Second, I don't think anybody cares about degrees. Third, I don't think anybody at all is worried about what will happen based on polling data now that he's not running for his council seat.

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  87. MH...if you don't think polling data is important that's fine. First Kevin Acklins nonprofit group has made a much wider impact on Pgh than BP has ever done. Interns of pointing to a person and saying, he made that happen here, Kevin when hands down. The isolated wordlview of Bill P is shady side, Sq hill that he reps. Of course no on cares about degrees, that's why the progressive elite is made up of liberal academics, progressive think tanks, and left windy journalist. all academic elitist a.

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  88. Mrs. Acklin. I'm sure you've raised a fine boy.

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  89. And Greenfield is one, or maybe two, traffic lights from Los Angeles. I think that silly claim to fame was in the lame doco that QED did a few years on the neighborhood, with Greenfield homeboy Michael Bartley narrating. Everything is a beautiful day in the neighborhood, if memory serves, with lots of bingo, fish frys and Little League baseball to attract the young families and distract the old timers. So unique!

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  90. Thank you MH...you should meet his father!

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  91. Kevin Acklin is squarely behind Peduto for Mayor.

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  92. Yes, Kevin has contributed the limit to Bill. He also lives up the street Fitz. Look for Acklin to run for a city or countywide office in near future.

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  93. What a transition for mr. Acklin, first he runs for at large county council as a GOP, then an independent for Mayor, now he is a dem committee member...it seems that accommodation to the prevailing political winds in Pgh is mR. Acklin s motivation far more than ideology .

    Luke out? Seems like soon...at least out of the race. Rumors swirl. Rehab? Shakedowns $$$$. Moms sick?

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  94. Luke is enjoying his last chance for the foreseeable future to jerk around the press. I predict no announcement until tomorrow afternoon.

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  95. Kevin Acklin does a lot for this city, in many neighborhoods, most of which you'll never know about.

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